05557: shadfrce, shadfrcejv2, shadfrcej: Mame DIP settings seems unaccurate, compared with Manual

ID	Category [?]	Severity [?]	Reproducibility	Date Submitted	Last Update
05557	DIP/Input	Trivial	Always	Apr 27, 2014, 22:33	Oct 19, 2014, 16:57

Tester	kamilz	View Status	Public	Platform	MAMEUI
Assigned To		Resolution	Open	OS	Windows Vista/7/8 (64-bit)
Status [?]	Acknowledged			Driver	technos/shadfrce.cpp
Version	0.153	Fixed in Version		Build	64-bit
		Fixed in Git Commit		Github Pull Request #

Summary	05557: shadfrce, shadfrcejv2, shadfrcej: Mame DIP settings seems unaccurate, compared with Manual
Description	i.e. on Mame: Unused DIP 2-5 actually Player Lives (OFF: 2, ON: 1) Another thing is default values, i.e. on Mame: Stage Clear Energy Regain is 25%, on Manual it seems 100% And another thing is there is no 100% on Mame. Manual says defaults are DIP1-2 all OFF (outline'd fonts) On DIP3 (not on exist on mame) 1,2,3: OFF (unused) 4,5,6 : ON (says don't touch or something) 7,8: OFF (unused) hope that helps, manual uploaded.
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Affected Sets / Systems	shadfrce, shadfrcejv2, shadfrcej

Attached Files	shForceDIP.jpg (203,433 bytes) Apr 27, 2014, 22:33 Uploaded by kamilz Game DIPSW Manual
Attached Files	shadfrce_dip2.png (322,866 bytes) Oct 19, 2014, 16:57 Uploaded by Arkhound U.S. DIP switches manual

No.10638 Tafoid Administrator Apr 27, 2014, 22:40	Dip switches/.Dip Sheets are not always 100% for each actual game. Sometimes, there are region specific dip settings, some are version specific and do not match between sets in MAME. Each one requires time/effort, like you are doing, to verify. Coding isn't that difficult but again, takes time. I've been acknowledging your reports as someone who has time and skill and interest and apply your dip sheet or observations.
No.10639 kamilz Tester Apr 27, 2014, 23:34	Thanks dude, fair enough. I'll keep going.
No.11120 Arkhound Tester Oct 19, 2014, 08:48 edited on: Oct 19, 2014, 16:51	I've playtested all three versions of Shadow Force (shadfrce, shadfrcej, and shadfrcejv2) and experimented with their DIP switch settings. The printed DIP switch settings shown on the above image with the Japanese PCB seem to be pretty accurate in regards to shadfrcej and shadfrcejv2. The settings for DIP switch set 2 are as follow. Difficulty = SW1,2 (Easy and Hard seem to be switched on MAME) Normal = off, off Easy = on, off Hard = off, on Hardest = on,on Stage Clear Energy Regain = SW3,4 (values are set to 25, 50, 10, or 0 percent respectively on MAME) 100% = off, off 50% = on, off 25% = off, on 0% = on, on Player's lives = SW5 2 = off 1 = on Vs. Stage = SW6 No = off Yes = on SW7 and 8 are not used As for the U.S. version (shadfrce), there's a PDF of the operator's manual online (http://www.theboneyardpdflibrary.com/Arcadex5w2y6g9lp3sManuals/arcademanuals_s/Shadow%20Force%20%28Instruction%20Manual%29.pdf ), but the settings shown there aren't accurate. Here's my results. Difficulty level = SW1,2 Normal = off, off Easy = on, off Hard = off, on Hardest = on,on Stage Clear Energy Regain = SW4 (SW3 doesn't seem to work in the U.S. version. You either, get full health recovery between stages or you don't recover anything.) 0% = off 100% = on SW5-8 are not used in U.S. version. The current MAME settings for all three versions are based on the settings shown on the game's test mode, which seems to display inaccurate values due to a programming oversight.
No.11121 Arkhound Tester Oct 19, 2014, 16:53 edited on: Oct 19, 2014, 16:54	On a side note, I believe shadfrcej is actually a later revision of the U.S. version, not a newer Japanese version (either that, or a World version). It uses "a" roms in addition to "j" roms and has English text during cut-scenes and stage introductions.