05556: mame -verifyroms lists nonexistent roms / clones as bad

ID	Category [?]	Severity [?]	Reproducibility	Date Submitted	Last Update
05556	Interface	Minor	Always	Apr 27, 2014, 12:42	Jun 8, 2021, 07:02

Tester	Klez	View Status	Public	Platform	MAME (Official Binary)
Assigned To		Resolution	Fixed	OS	Windows Vista/7/8 (64-bit)
Status [?]	Resolved			Driver
Version	0.153	Fixed in Version	0.231	Build	64-bit
		Fixed in Git Commit		Github Pull Request #

Summary	05556: mame -verifyroms lists nonexistent roms / clones as bad
Description	Somewhat similar to bug: 04267: -verifyroms lists nonexistent roms / clones as bad Hapening since a few major versions ago. Not new from v 0.153 The following roms are listed as bad but NONE of these are installed. aliensyn2, aliensyn5, aliensynjo, sdib, sdibl, defense, kizuna4p, mac2bios, rdft2us, rfjets, rfjetsa, shinobi2, shinobi3, shinobld, h63484, mb90082 Original parent roms are OK and do not contain any extra unedded files: # mame64 -verifyroms aliensyn romset aliensyn is good # mame64 -verifyroms sdi sdi : 317-0027.key (8192 bytes) - NEEDS REDUMP romset sdi is best available # mame64 -verifyroms rdft2 romset rdft2 is good # mame64 -verifyroms rfjet romset rfjet is good # mame64 -verifyroms shinobi romset shinobi is good Now, if i execute "mame64 -verifyroms" to do a full rom audit the following nonexistent roms are listed: (i never installed any of these i promise!) h63484 : h63484.bin (256 bytes) - NOT FOUND - NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN romset h63484 is best available mb90082 : mb90082_char.bin (2048 bytes) - NOT FOUND - NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN romset mb90082 is best available mac2bios : macs2os_l.bin (524288 bytes) - NOT FOUND - NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN [...] romset mac2bios is best available kizuna4p : 216-p1.p1 (2097152 bytes) - NOT FOUND (kizuna) [...] romset kizuna4p [kizuna] is bad aliensyn2 : epr-10808 (32768 bytes) - NOT FOUND [...] romset aliensyn2 [aliensyn] is bad aliensyn5 : epr-10804.43 (32768 bytes) - NOT FOUND [...] romset aliensyn5 [aliensyn] is bad aliensynjo : epr-10699.43 (32768 bytes) - NOT FOUND [...] romset aliensynjo [aliensyn] is bad sdib : epr-10986a.a4 (32768 bytes) - NOT FOUND [...] romset sdib [sdi] is bad sdibl : a4.rom (32768 bytes) - NOT FOUND [...] romset sdibl [sdi] is bad defense : epr-10917a.a4 (32768 bytes) - NOT FOUND [...] romset defense [sdi] is bad rdft2us : prg0.u0259 (524288 bytes) - NOT FOUND [...] romset rdft2us [rdft2] is bad rfjets : rfj-06.u0259 (524288 bytes) - NOT FOUND [...] romset rfjets [rfjet] is bad rfjetsa : rfj-06(__rfjetsa).u0259 (524288 bytes) - NOT FOUND [...] romset rfjetsa [rfjet] is bad shinobi2 : epr-11282.a4 (65536 bytes) - NOT FOUND [...] romset shinobi2 [shinobi] is bad shinobi3 : epr-11299.a4 (65536 bytes) - NOT FOUND [...] romset shinobi3 [shinobi] is bad shinobld : 12.bin (65536 bytes) - NOT FOUND [...] romset shinobld [shinobi] is bad These sets should not be listed because they are not installed and not needed.
Steps To Reproduce	1) Start with a empty ROMS folder. 2) Install the following roms: sdi, aliensyn, shinobi, rdft2, rfjet. 3) execute this in the terminal: "mame -verifyroms" 4) Now you will see some non existent roms being audited and giving an error.
Additional Information	I used the official command line MAME binary from mamedev.org
Github Commit

Flags
Regression Version
Affected Sets / Systems

Attached Files

No.10640 Tafoid Administrator Apr 27, 2014, 23:57	In most of the cases, it seems, parents are in a driver and it is assumed the clones are in the same driver and they are not EG: shinobi C:\Users\ThenGames\Desktop\153>mame shinob* -ls shinobi segas16a.c shinobi1 segas16a.c shinobi2 segas16b.c shinobi3 segas16b.c shinobi4 segas16b.c shinobi5 segas16b.c shinoblb segas16a.c shinobld system16.c shinobls segas16a.c
No.14943 Robbbert Moderator Apr 10, 2018, 08:57	Is this still an issue?
No.14946 wuemura Viewer Apr 12, 2018, 14:45	Yes, mame binary (mame0196-307-gef77d3f1aa-dirty) is isolated, no roms folder or any *.ini romset 1292apvs is best available romset 1392apvs [1292apvs] is best available romset a2600 is best available romset a2600p [a2600] is best available romset advsnha [arcadia] is best available romset apexc is best available romset arcadia is best available romset bndarc [arcadia] is best available romset breakout is best available romset copera is best available romset cpc464p is best available romset cpc6128p is best available romset cx3000tc [vc4000] is best available romset database is best available romset dendy [iq501] is best available romset dendy2 [iq502] is best available romset dynavisn [intmpt03] is best available romset ekusera [intmpt03] is best available romset elf2 is best available romset f1392 [1292apvs] is best available romset famicom is best available fccpu30lite4: rom.bin (65536 bytes) - NOT FOUND - NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN romset fccpu30lite4 [fccpu30] is best available fccpu30lite8: rom.bin (65536 bytes) - NOT FOUND - NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN romset fccpu30lite8 [fccpu30] is best available fccpu30senr : rom.bin (65536 bytes) - NOT FOUND - NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN romset fccpu30senr is best available fccpu30senr501: rom.bin (65536 bytes) - NOT FOUND - NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN romset fccpu30senr501 is best available romset fforce2 [1292apvs] is best available romset gchinatv is best available romset genesis is best available grid1101 : 1101even.bin (8192 bytes) - NOT FOUND - NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN grid1101 : 1101odd.bin (8192 bytes) - NOT FOUND - NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN grid1101 : 80130 (16384 bytes) - NOT FOUND - NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN romset grid1101 is best available grid1109 : 1109even.bin (8192 bytes) - NOT FOUND - NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN grid1109 : 1109odd.bin (8192 bytes) - NOT FOUND - NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN grid1109 : 80130 (16384 bytes) - NOT FOUND - NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN romset grid1109 [grid1101] is best available grid1121 : 1121even.bin (8192 bytes) - NOT FOUND - NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN grid1121 : 1121odd.bin (8192 bytes) - NOT FOUND - NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN grid1121 : 80130 (16384 bytes) - NOT FOUND - NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN romset grid1121 is best available grid1131 : 1131even.bin (8192 bytes) - NOT FOUND - NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN grid1131 : 1131odd.bin (8192 bytes) - NOT FOUND - NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN grid1131 : 80130 (16384 bytes) - NOT FOUND - NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN romset grid1131 [grid1121] is best available romset gx4000 is best available romset h21 is best available romset hanihac [arcadia] is best available romset hmg1292 [1292apvs] is best available romset hmg1392 [1292apvs] is best available romset hmg2650 [arcadia] is best available
No.14958 Robbbert Moderator Apr 18, 2018, 04:36	All appears normal. The sets listed either do not need roms, or their only roms are undumped. Closing.
No.14961 Tafoid Administrator Apr 18, 2018, 19:42	Yes, this is still an issue. I still have clones of pull parent sets being expected when they shouldn't be even attempted to audit. Please follow the instructions above and note the numerous 'missing' from clones of those parents, not including NO_DUMP/BAD_DUMP or other sets not requiring ANY roms at all.
No.14963 wuemura Viewer Apr 19, 2018, 09:52	This function should also consider the rom file availability, if there's no file to be audited, nothing should be done or reported to avoid a flood of "xxx file not found".
No.14964 Tafoid Administrator Apr 19, 2018, 13:16	If anything, perhaps the list of never validating roms could be controlled by linking into the "Hide romless machines" UI Miscellaneous option. I agree that by design it is only supposed to show those which you already a folder/compressed folder.
No.15977 belegdol Tester Dec 30, 2018, 13:32	I am seeing this too with the following roms: - vgmplay - mbaao - mushi2eo - ffrevng10 - mu100r
No.18101 Tafoid Administrator Oct 29, 2020, 01:25	https://github.com/mamedev/mame/issues/6985 Has some further examples. Since it is closed, I'm unsure how we will go to fix individual scanning of machines.
No.18925 Klez Tester Jun 4, 2021, 07:09 edited on: Jun 4, 2021, 07:13	Update - Situation improved a lot in recent MAME releases. Now repeating these tests in MAME version 0.231, for me the only non existent rom being reported as bad is "vgmplay". All other entries listed in the original report do not show anymore as missing or bad and also work well. I think this bug can be closed as FIXED, because the only remaining problem, the "vgmplay" set might be something different specific to that driver. Thank you all for your input.
No.18927 Tafoid Administrator Jun 4, 2021, 18:48	vgmplay requires "new" roms for the new FM cores, so anything missing is likely expected if you haven't updated your romsets correctly.
No.18934 Klez Tester Jun 7, 2021, 10:10	I do not have the rom "vgmplay", hence it should't be reported as bad. However, with an empty roms folder this "vgmplay" is not reported, so might be required for something i cant guess(?¿) Anyway I propose this MT to fixed, since none of the previously reported errors appear anymore.