03633: mimonkey: [possible] Wrong colors

ID	Category [?]	Severity [?]	Reproducibility	Date Submitted	Last Update
03633	Color/Palette	Minor	Always	Jan 3, 2010, 01:56	Jun 11, 2018, 13:28

Tester	M.A.S.H.	View Status	Public	Platform	MAME (Self-compiled)
Assigned To		Resolution	Open	OS	Windows XP (32-bit)
Status [?]	Confirmed			Driver	galaxian/scobra.cpp
Version	0.136	Fixed in Version		Build	Normal
		Fixed in Git Commit		Github Pull Request #

Summary	03633: mimonkey: [possible] Wrong colors
Description	Mighty Monkey (1982) has wrong colors. I compared MAME with the three screenshots from the TAFA flyer. And the High Score text in MAME is yellow and on the TAFA flyer red. The 'A CHINESE ANCIENT STORY' and 'UNIVERSAL VIDEA GAMES' text on the title screen have also different colors. All colors looks like from a bootleg of Mighty Monkey. The GAME_WRONG_COLORS flag must be set. TAFA flyer: http://www.arcadeflyers.com/?page=flyer&db=videodb&id=2944&image=2
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Flags	Possible
Regression Version
Affected Sets / Systems	mimonkey

Attached Files	Flyer-Screenshots-1.png (191,509 bytes) Jan 3, 2010, 01:56
	Mighty Monkey-MAME-Screenshots.png (12,437 bytes) Jan 3, 2010, 01:56
	Mighty Monkey-www.arcadecollecting.com-Shots.png (120,460 bytes) Jan 23, 2014, 08:45 Uploaded by M.A.S.H.
	Ebay_Mighty Monkey (Kaina Games).png (538,418 bytes) Aug 25, 2015, 10:27 Uploaded by M.A.S.H.

No.05371 Haze Senior Tester Jan 3, 2010, 03:39	it might just be a different version...
No.05373 Tafoid Administrator Jan 3, 2010, 16:53	At this point, while the flyers show some semblance of color to give the impression they current MAME presentation is wrong , it's hard to flat out say they are incorrect without ruling out bad proms or something else. I'm willing to confirm this, but ask for further PCB confirmation which might never surface. Also, remember this game is still in the to be antiquated scobra.c, which will eventually be merged into galdrvr.c There might be elements of this game which will improve with the merge to the updated driver.
No.10202 M.A.S.H. Senior Tester Jan 23, 2014, 08:45 edited on: Jan 23, 2014, 08:50	Found Mighty Monkey snapshots at http://www.arcadecollecting.com/shots.html taken from actual arcade PCB using video capture equipment (see Mighty Monkey-www.arcadecollecting.com-Shots.png). The ingame images on the right shows that Mighty Monkey has a starfield! MAME's color prom is correct. All colors the arcade shots have are also in the color prom, but MAME's palette_init is different. So i created my own color PROM to see if MAME's PROM has the correct palette compared to the arcade shots. Some colors did i not found, they are using in collision sequences, but the new MAME screenshots look identical the the arcade ones! MAME's PROM_________My PROM 00 17 C7 F6_________00 31 07 F0 00 17 C0 3F_________00 17 07 F0 00 07 C0 3F_________00 17 C0 F0 00 C0 C4 07_________00 07 F0 F6 00 C7 31 17_________00 XX XX C0 00 31 C7 3F_________00 C4 31 07 00 F6 07 F0_________00 XX XX XX 00 3F 07 C4_________00 XX XX C0 Colours: 00 black 07 red 17 orange 31 green 3F yellow C0 Blue C4 dark pink C7 pink F0 cyan F6 white 00 - 00 Background 01 - 31 Players Body/Cloud COL2 (INTRO) 02 - 07 Players Face (INTRO) 03 - F0 Players Hair/Feets (INTRO) 04 - 00 05 - 17 Chinese Wall COL2 06 - 07 Players Face (INGAME) 07 - F0 Players Hair/Feets (INGAME) 08 - 00 09 - 17 Face of NIU MO WANG 0A - C0 Head of NIU MO WANG 0B - F0 'A CHINESE ANCIENT STORY' 0C - 00 0D - 07 Cloud COL2 after collision (see mimdead.gif) 0E - F0 Insect COL2 after collision (see mimdead.gif) 0F - F6 'NIU MO WANG' 10 - 00 11 - 12 - 13 - C0 'SUN WU KONG' 14 - 00 15 - C4 Body of Insect COL1 (INTRO) + 'MIGHTY MONKEY' (INTRO) (see mimtit.gif) 16 - 31 Body of Insect COL2 (INTRO) 17 - 07 'HIGH SCORE' 18 - 00 19 - 1A - 1B - 1C - 00 1D - 1E - 1F - C0 'CREDIT' -----
No.10206 Stiletto Developer Jan 23, 2014, 18:08 edited on: Jan 23, 2014, 18:08	Can't say for certain but the arcadecollecting.com PCB might be where the dump came from. Would bear further investigation. In any event, arcadecollecting.com sold off a large part of their collection so it's probably gone.
No.10208 Stiletto Developer Jan 24, 2014, 04:27	Anyhow, crafting your own color PROM to fix the colors in MAME is a "wrong fix", MASH. :)
No.11987 M.A.S.H. Senior Tester Aug 25, 2015, 10:29 edited on: Aug 25, 2015, 10:31	Added the ebay auction photos from clone Mighty Monkey (Kaina Games, bootleg on Scramble hardware). http://www.ebay.de/itm/MIGHTY-MONKEY-Arcade-PCB-1982-Kaina-Games-mit-Adapter-TV-Videospielautomat-Ideal-/111716983100?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item1a02d9e13c&nma=true&si=sjTMntFAlsunhgAgydEkyZJwQxw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
No.15134 kazblox Tester Jun 9, 2018, 02:29 edited on: Jun 9, 2018, 02:30	From everything I've gathered so far, Mighty Monkey does look to use a nonstandard PROM decode. And I can't even tell how it works without seeing an actual shot of the PCB and tracing the wiremods. The Kaina Games bootleg does something similar, but in different execution as you can see by the different colors. I'm heads up on straight confirming this issue.
No.15164 kazblox Tester Jun 11, 2018, 13:28	Kaina Games bootleg appears to use a simple address line swap on the PROM (arranged in this order: 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 0, 1) while the real machine is using all jumbled sorts of crap.