03414: brapboys, brapboysj: Unable to perform same move on both brapboys sets

ID	Category [?]	Severity [?]	Reproducibility	Date Submitted	Last Update
03414	Gameplay	Minor	Have not tried	Aug 31, 2009, 10:57	Aug 18, 2011, 17:45

Tester	hammad	View Status	Public	Platform	MAMEUI
Assigned To		Resolution	No change required	OS	Windows XP (32-bit)
Status [?]	Closed			Driver	kaneko/kaneko16.cpp
Version	0.133u4	Fixed in Version		Build	Normal
		Fixed in Git Commit		Github Pull Request #

Summary	03414: brapboys, brapboysj: Unable to perform same move on both brapboys sets
Description	Problem is the little rapper (player 2) who uses skateboard cannot do his special in the normal version when we press punch and jump together but can do it in the special version...
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Affected Sets / Systems	brapboys, brapboysj

Attached Files	0001.png (11,408 bytes) Aug 18, 2011, 17:44 Uploaded by Tafoid Side Jumpkick, using brapboys set
Attached Files	0002.png (11,420 bytes) Aug 18, 2011, 17:45 Uploaded by Tafoid Spinkick, using braboysj set

No.04888 Haze Senior Tester Aug 31, 2009, 20:23	what do you mean by special move? it acts the same in both games here, you hit the opponent over the head with the skateboard.
No.04889 Haze Senior Tester Aug 31, 2009, 21:22	the text (if it's really text) seems to say 'MUL' I wonder if it's indicating some sort of failure in the maths/collision unit...
No.04893 hammad Tester Sep 3, 2009, 19:15	yes the special move the skateboard rapper does....he does with the skateboard in both the versions but try doing without skateboard....the spin kick he does....he is doing it only in the special version and not the normal version....
No.04894 Tafoid Administrator Sep 3, 2009, 19:26	That kind of behavior suggest it's by design. There are added elements to the game from "Special" to the normal set - just look at the introduction, when the rappers come down. The scaffolding carries them down in the Special version - you get nothing like that in the normal version.
No.04899 hammad Tester Sep 4, 2009, 11:05	@Tafoid Yes you are right there are extra characters in special version and the title screen is different as well....but the skateboard rapper missing his special movie i don't understand this .....
No.04900 Haze Senior Tester Sep 4, 2009, 11:12	I still don't understand this special move part of the bug report. With the skateboard pressing A+B causes him to hit the CPU with the skateboard Without the skateboard pressing A+B causes him to do a drop kick This is the same in both versions. I see no 'spinning kick' in either version.
No.04910 hammad Tester Sep 7, 2009, 17:13	I have attached the pics of the skateboard rapper doing spin kick from special version.....
No.04911 Haze Senior Tester Sep 7, 2009, 22:56	so how do you do it?
No.04912 Tafoid Administrator Sep 7, 2009, 23:18	I was only able to achieve this spin kick with the 2nd player by mapping the attack buttons to a joypad. No amount of timing could get the kick to work with the keyboard (at least for me), even if I mapped them to the same button.
No.04913 Haze Senior Tester Sep 8, 2009, 09:57	ok.. what I'm basically trying to determine is if the graphics for this move are only present in the special version or not. I'mt not having much luck getting it to work at all.
No.04936 hammad Tester Sep 11, 2009, 08:07	while doing this move you shouldn't touch the arrow buttons just press punch and jump and he will do spin kick if u press forward arrow and jump + punch he will do drop kick
No.07693 Tafoid Administrator Aug 18, 2011, 17:35	As I stated a couple years ago when I researched this, the spinkick move for the player 2 character (performed by holding kick+jump without the skateboard) looks to be a move unique to this one "Special" version of the game (brapboysj). The normal version (brapboys) simply does a side jumpkick attempting the same move, as the snapshots attached show. There has been no evidence from original hardware play that this move is available to player 2 from actual PCB play of the normal version, so I'm concluding that this is not a bug. Closing and moving the graphic glitch issue to another bug report.