02886: firetrap, firetrapbl: [possible] Can't go into the stage 17.

ID	Category [?]	Severity [?]	Reproducibility	Date Submitted	Last Update
02886	Graphics	Major	Always	Jan 28, 2009, 10:39	Jan 29, 2009, 16:12

Tester	jym	View Status	Public	Platform	MAME (Official Binary)
Assigned To		Resolution	Unable to reproduce	OS	Windows 98/Me
Status [?]	Closed			Driver	dataeast/firetrap.cpp
Version	0.125	Fixed in Version		Build	Athlon
		Fixed in Git Commit		Github Pull Request #

Summary	02886: firetrap, firetrapbl: [possible] Can't go into the stage 17.
Description	I play FireTrap in stage 16 appear 2 giant fireball, one can't move. Finish stage 16 and want to enter stage 17 screen change black. Maybe the bug is game itself. Firetpbl also condition.
Steps To Reproduce
Additional Information	This might be an original behaviour and recheck without the cheat is needed.
Github Commit

Flags	Possible
Regression Version
Affected Sets / Systems	firetrap, firetrapbl

Attached Files	Firetpbl.png (11,558 bytes) Jan 28, 2009, 10:39

No.03668 Fujix Administrator Jan 28, 2009, 12:20 edited on: May 17, 2009, 19:36	Could you recheck the bug with the latest MAME release (0.129 or 0.129u2 if possible) and attach save state or inp file just before the problematic point so that other devs and testers can check it easily. And please read the Tutorial page before your next post. http://mametesters.org/tutorial.html
No.03670 jym Tester Jan 28, 2009, 12:52	Have anybody completed stage 17?
No.03671 Tafoid Administrator Jan 28, 2009, 13:10	I noticed your time is at set at 999, which I'd assume you are using cheats? Submitting any bugs with the use of cheats is not advised. Bugs that happen when using cheats might not be real bugs. For instance, in this case, it might very well be that without cheats it's an impossible building to finish? Seeing the highest record score at http://www.twingalaxies.com (417,740) and even at http://marp.retrogames.com (299,470), they don't even reach half of your highest score you show on your screenshot. I'd say at best this could labeled this possible, until someone without cheats can play up to that level. Any other comments?
No.03673 jym Tester Jan 28, 2009, 13:45	Bugs that happen when using cheats might not be real bugs. I don't think so. If no use cheat you never found the game itself bug.
No.03674 etabeta Developer Jan 28, 2009, 15:15	some cheats change game code, other ones change RAM in parts which are not supposed to be changed. all these behaviors could never appear on the real PCB, hence your report has to be confirmed without cheat or it is invalid.
No.03676 Haze Senior Tester Jan 28, 2009, 20:59 edited on: Jan 28, 2009, 20:59	it might be impossible to complete level 16 without cheating, so they didn't program a level 17.... with cheats you really don't know.