 No.00063
Tafoid Administrator
Mar 7, 2008, 21:04
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I don't know fighter games enough to verify the moves and in this case, the trouble this person is having. Some help from devs and other testers would be welcomed! |
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 No.00068
LeChuck Tester
Mar 8, 2008, 00:58
edited on: Mar 8, 2008, 01:00
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for better reproduce-ability: map buttons 4, 5 and 6, these are the kick-buttons in street fighter alpha 3. then start a 2-player match, so you don't have the opponent distracting you from pulling of the moves. choose blanka as your character to play with ("green goblin"). i suggest you choose normal instead the default turbo-mode when asked (after character selection, choose standard fighting style). then just simultaneously press buttons 4, 5 and 6, this will cause him to do a small evasive jump forward. you can also pull this move off backwards by pulling the stick away from the opponent while pressing buttons 4, 5 and 6 at the same time ( <-- + (4+5+6) ). with this description everyone should be able to reproduce it (i hope we can get verification on the issue). |
 No.00213
Foxhack Tester
Mar 18, 2008, 03:18
edited on: Mar 18, 2008, 05:05
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I just tried this out with three different characters. Blanka threw a kick instead of doing the dash move about six times out of ten; Zangief (big wrestler with a thong) tried to grab the enemy instead of doing the lariat more or less the same amount of times; Akuma / Gouki (dude in the black karate suit) has a teleport move that requires you to press all three buttons or kicks plus a stick combination, and it only worked a few times. This -does- appear to be an issue with MAME's input system. I'm using a Playstation game pad with a Gamemon PS2/GC/XBox USB adapter. I was using MAME 0.123, downloaded from MAMEDev. |
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No.00218
zsoltvasvari Developer
Mar 18, 2008, 09:29
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I just tried it with some random game where I printed out the state of BUTTON1, BUTTON2 and BUTTON3 and it worked fine both on the keyboard and on my Logitech Dual Action USB game pad. |
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No.00358
LeChuck Tester
Mar 23, 2008, 20:49
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also did some further testing on it, it only affects certain games, mostly CPS1/2/3 games with joystick input. tested King Of Fighters (SNK-Fighter), no problem here. Also no problem in Radiant Silvergun (Shooter). 3-button-presses register absolutely consistently here in both games. Prob seems to be primarily in CPS1/2/3 Fighting Games. Does this make any sense at all (for I assume input handling is done the same way in all games, maybe it is due to timing of the moves that they are not recognized, maybe the game "needs more attention" than others in emulating. Setting process priority to real-time or high doesnt change anything by the way) ? But test Radiant Silvergun for yourself. As opposed to SFA3 3-button inputs work perfectly here. |
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No.00359
Foxhack Tester
Mar 23, 2008, 21:01
edited on: Mar 23, 2008, 21:12
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But in the KOF games, pressing buttons 1 + 2 will cause the character to do an evasive move, while pressing 1 + 2 + 3 will make them charge up energy. You can hold buttons 1+2, then press 3 afterwards, and the charge move will happen. Street Fighter Alpha 3, at least, requires you to press all three buttons at the same time. I tested this in Street Fighter 2 (sf2), and I couldn't pull off Zangief's spinning clothesline (press buttons 1 + 2 + 3) as often either! But I haven't tested the other games, so I wouldn't know if it's the same with those. |
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No.00479
wrdaniel Tester
Mar 30, 2008, 21:12
edited on: Mar 30, 2008, 21:14
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I also checked sfa3 blanka move (3 kick buttons) with different input devices. 1) keyboard ps/2 - get it rarely, around 20% 2) logitech wireless keyboard - cant get the move at all 3) virtua stick high grade (usb) - bit better then ps/2 keyboard around 30% so i thought its about latency and i used a little program (usbmrs11.exe) (i use winXP and mame 0.124a) to raise the USB polling rate to 1000Hz, and tested again the vshg where i now got better results, around 60% i think. but maybe i was just lucky. someone can check this? maybe someone has an ipac running cause its said they have no latency. how are the results there? tnx, wrdaniel |
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No.00811
wrdaniel Tester
Apr 25, 2008, 18:41
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changed the pcb of my virtua stick high grade to an ipac2. now i get the above mentioned move most of the time 90%+. the missing ones should be able with more training. |
 No.00813
Fujix Administrator
Apr 25, 2008, 20:32
edited on: Apr 25, 2008, 21:20
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I assigned one key to button3, 4 and 5. It works as simultaneous input. The emulated game works correctly. All input devices don't work in the same way. It is known that there are some input devices which can't handle severe input timings properly. MAME has an option for keyboard, but for gamepad.
-[no]steadykey / -[no]steady
Some games require two or more buttons to be pressed at exactly the
same time to make special moves. Due to limitations in the keyboard
hardware, it can be difficult or even impossible to accomplish that
using the standard keyboard handling. This option selects a different
handling that makes it easier to register simultaneous button presses,
but has the disadvantage of making controls less responsive. The
default is OFF (-nosteadykey)
Closing this report. |